The Subordinate Substitute

Author:   Peter Carnley
Publisher:   Cascade Books
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9781666765212


Pages:   280
Publication Date:   10 January 2024
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"In this book Peter Carnley examines the logical connection between the doctrine of the Trinity and the doctrine of redemption. In the companion volume to this, Arius on Carillon Avenue, contemporary expressions of belief in the ""eternal functional subordination"" of the Son to the Father were carefully discussed and found wanting when measured against the norms of orthodox trinitarian belief. This book examines the repercussions of this defective ""trinitarian subordinationism"" in relation to recent attempts to defend the ""penal substitutionary theory"" of the Atonement, which in turn is also found to fall short of trinitarian norms. As an alternative a less theoretical and speculative ""incorporative"" or ""participative"" theology of redemption is proposed."

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Author:   Peter Carnley
Publisher:   Cascade Books
Imprint:   Cascade Books
Dimensions:   Width: 15.20cm , Height: 1.60cm , Length: 22.90cm
Weight:   0.417kg
ISBN:  

9781666765212


ISBN 10:   166676521
Pages:   280
Publication Date:   10 January 2024
Audience:   General/trade ,  General
Format:   Paperback
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"""This is a significant contribution to the understanding of the limits that Christian theological orthodoxy imposes on theological arguments that deviate from the homoousion of the persons of the Trinity. Peter Carnley is relentless in bringing us back to the theological consensus of the undivided church."" --Philip Freier, archbishop, Anglican Diocese of Melbourne ""Peter Carnley's work constitutes a major challenge to two cherished evangelical views that are often regarded as essential to the very essence of the gospel--the alleged 'eternal functional subordination of the Son to the Father' and the outworking of this in the doctrine of redemption in the form of 'penal substitutionary theory' of the atonement. This volume will confirm the view of many that the very survival of Christian faith may in large part depend on the need of evangelical Christianity to reinvent itself."" --Steve Chalke, author of The Lost Message of Jesus ""Peter Carnley, both bishop and first-rate theologian, is thoroughly orthodox and Bible-centered. He defends the Trinity against misguided Evangelical claims for the Son's eternal subordination to the Father, which underpin the penal substitutionary theory of atonement that he forensically demolishes. Instead, Carnley commends a Bible-based, participatory, richly personal view of salvation that is ecclesial and eucharistic rather than narrowly juridical. He offers a decisive corrective to a theological, spiritual, and missional wrong turn."" --Scott Cowdell, research professor in theology, Charles Sturt University"


"""This is a significant contribution to the understanding of the limits that Christian theological orthodoxy imposes on theological arguments that deviate from the homoousion of the persons of the Trinity. Peter Carnley is relentless in bringing us back to the theological consensus of the undivided church."" --Philip Freier, archbishop, Anglican Diocese of Melbourne ""Peter Carnley's work constitutes a major challenge to two cherished evangelical views that are often regarded as essential to the very essence of the gospel--the alleged 'eternal functional subordination of the Son to the Father' and the outworking of this in the doctrine of redemption in the form of 'penal substitutionary theory' of the atonement. This volume will confirm the view of many that the very survival of Christian faith may in large part depend on the need of evangelical Christianity to reinvent itself."" --Steve Chalke, author of The Lost Message of Jesus ""Peter Carnley, both bishop and first-rate theologian, is thoroughly orthodox and Bible-centered. He defends the Trinity against misguided Evangelical claims for the Son's eternal subordination to the Father, which underpin the penal substitutionary theory of atonement that he forensically demolishes. Instead, Carnley commends a Bible-based, participatory, richly personal view of salvation that is ecclesial and eucharistic rather than narrowly juridical. He offers a decisive corrective to a theological, spiritual, and missional wrong turn."" --Scott Cowdell, research professor in theology, Charles Sturt University"


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Peter Carnley was Anglican archbishop of Perth from 1981 to 2005 and primate of Australia for the last five of those years. He is an honorary fellow of St. John's College, Cambridge, Emmanuel College, Cambridge, and Trinity College, Melbourne, and holds a first degree from the University of Melbourne, a research degree from Cambridge UK, a Lambeth DD, and a number of honorary doctorates. He is author of The Structure of Resurrection Belief (1987), Reflections in Glass (2004), the companion volumes Resurrection in Retrospect and The Reconstruction of Resurrection Belief (2019) and Arius on Carillon Avenue (2023). He and his wife Ann now live in Fremantle, Western Australia.

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